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Honour Rosser

These are comments left after the article in the Courier Mail I can't believe people can be so cruel and hurtful.  How you can rest knowing what you have said is beyond me.

 

Alice3 days ago

Is this a Labor Party setup for a bit of positive publicity?

Annette3 days ago

@Alice No.

David3 days ago

Isn't abuse against women more important than a political stunt by a premier who wears flats and jeans to work

Campbell3 days ago
I do think that there is a lot more to this story than is included here.  I heard an interview with this woman on the ABC radio on Thursday afternoon.  It was confusing and incomplete.  She said that the gas company "forced" her off her property.  If it was her property, that wouldn't have happened.  Many of the people who bought into the "tree change" lifestyle in the Tara/Chinchilla/Miles developments paid well above real value for their piece of paradise and suddenly found that it was somewhat expensive to set their homestead up.  Now she has discovered that this cost doesn't necessarily translate into an increase in the sale price of her property. Maybe in time we will get a few more details from QGC to fill in the blanks.

What she and her family have faced is not unique to CSG developments and not everyone has had a socialist Premier to lean on for support.  I wish them luck in seeking an equitable resolution, but I doubt that it will be an answer that they are completely happy with.  Maybe they did buy a ticket in the $30million lotto tonight and may never have to worry about this again.

 

ben3 days ago

Can everyone please show some respect for the Premier. Calling her Anna or Anna2 is demeaning and inappropriate. Personally attending to matters like this shows humility from the Premier regardless of political persuasion.

A D3 days ago
@ben  To me it demonstrates the "squeaky wheel" scenario.

Harriet3 days ago

@ben I call her Anna because I have no idea how to spell her surname and don't feel the need to learn.

 

Brian3 days ago

@ben  Obviously you did not read any posts when Campbell Newman wasPremier

 

Paul3 days ago

Thanks for asking so politely but no, Anna2 is fine.

Kerri3 days ago

She said she sold her home, even at a loss... they would still have some money. Why are they choosing to rough it. Surely, they could still afford a home... even a two bedroom home, until they had to opportunity to obtain legal advice.

A D3 days ago
@Kerri  Or rent? Perhaps they didn't do their homework and the business was not viable; in which case why is this the taxpayers issue?

Noel3 days ago

@A D @Kerri It's a taxpayers issue because Labor is making it a taxpayer issue.

 

A D3 days ago

@Noel @A D @Kerri  And those living in cars, waiting for emergency housing. Maybe they should follow suit.

 

Brian3 days ago

@A D @Noel @Kerri  One does wonder how they recharged their laptops when they lived in the bush.

 

Sarah3 days ago

@Brian @A D @Noel @Kerri Judging a homeless family who have spent months roughing it, classy all of you

Annette3 days ago

@Brian @A D @Noel @Kerri Some people in the 'bush' do have power, believe it or not.  Some even have stand alone solar or generators.

 

Harriet3 days ago

@Annette @Brian @A D @Noel @Kerri The article says they have been living rough in the bush around Texas, which is what Brian is referring to.

 

Annette3 days ago

@A D @Kerri That wasn't the issue, they had gas on their property, the gas company sold the property.  Who is saying that it is a taxpayer issue?
 

Harriet3 days ago

@Annette @A D @Kerri I listened to the interview on ABC radio, and I think you will find it was the Family Law Court that instigated the sale of the property, not QGC?

 

Anne2 days ago

@Harriet @Annette @A D @Kerri If this house was forced by the Family Court it raises a few questions.  If the mother and five children are living in that house I feel sure that it would never come to a forced sale.

Trevor3 days ago

Busy times ahead , any problems head straight to the top with cameras , guaranteed results

Robert4 days ago

The comments on this page are astounding. Blame the victim, deny any problems with the invasive coal seam gas industry, shoot the messenger, complain about dole bludgers, call people bogans, claim you are compensated properly when you are not, ignore the constantly reported health effects of gas exposure, and basically don't care about what is happening to our country. These are the canaries in the coal mine. I sincerely hope you guys are ready for the gas invasion in your suburb.

Glenda4 days ago
@Robert Funny in NSW in the electorates with CSG wells the National party retained and in some cases improved their vote. The farmers are happy with the funds they grt and see CSG doing no damage

The only electorates that voted against CSG were the electorates with NO CSG wells!

 

Robert3 days ago

@Glenda @Robert incorrect there were swings of over 20% in all electorates impacted by coal seam gas 

 

Robert3 days ago

@Robert @Glenda

I've got to change my name

 

Robert3 days ago

@Glenda @Robert

Can't eat GSG

 

Annette3 days ago

@Glenda @Robert That isn't quite true Glenda.
 

Harriet3 days ago

@Annette @Glenda @Robert I think you will find Glenda is absolutely correct.

 

Tony4 days ago

Robert, Your left wing diatribe against these Companies is hilarious. I

Robert3 days ago

@Tony err I vote LNP normally, but not now over coal seam gas impacting all our families and friends in regional areas of QLD and NSW 

 

David3 days ago

@Robert @Tony Robert didn't you make the same comment a few weeks ago about another issue saying you normally vote LNP but!


Robert3 days ago

@Robert At present I am more concerned about  what is happening in Queensland.  I have no wish to live in  a state where  a politician with a record as long as your arm votes on laws that effect me. I do not buy the Speakers justification that the record is out of date.  

 

Trevor4 days ago

Liberal supporters haven't got clue to social values or problems

Greed is the warmth they feel in Their heart

 

David3 days ago

@Trevor Yes greed to run state/country like a business which makes money, because you can only lose money for a certain amount of time

Noel4 days ago

What a sorry lot this mob is. Now they resort to staging stories. 

Sharon4 days ago

I would imagine with 5 children (I can only count 4) this mother and her partner would be are to receive welfare including rent assistance.  Why isn't that money going towards to rent?  Do they think they are entitled to live rent free?

Sharon4 days ago
able

David3 days ago

@Sharon My wife and I can't afford to have 5 kids so we only had 1

M4 days ago

The irony of the first few comments here. Glenda, Tony, STP and Andrew, All accusing Labor of a "political stunt", yet these are the same people who don't think the LNP were/are stage managing the Gordon issue. Love it guys, but is this not a "conspiracy theory" Smile

M4 days ago

Sorry apologies to STP. 

 

Glenda4 days ago

@M Of course the LNP were not managing the Gordon issue.

They only became involved after the Palaszczuk cover up came unstuck!

 

Andrew4 days ago

M: I find it funny that a major story that can bring the government down and then magically a family from the opposition leaders electorate show up and sit in. Call me a cynic but that's a staged managed event if I've ever seen it. And be consistent by your reckoning this family should have gone to centerlink and department of housing instead of seeing the premier!

 

Annette3 days ago

@Andrew This is not a 'set up'.  This family have been writing and phoning both Labor and LNP politicians for months.  This was out of frustration.  It just happens that Labor and now the QLD state government.  If LNP had of won the last election, it would have been LNP offices.

 

Andrew3 days ago

M: neither is the other. Labor got him elected. The LNP are holding him to account for his actions. I know that's hard for you to understand, but He's a Labor Candidate and even 2 of their campaign directors are attacking each other for selecting him.

Herb4 days ago

More to this story than meets the eye. Settler type blocks sold near Tara to people going for a tree change can't make a living with aquaponics. Dig deeper CM otherwise don't print trivial stories when there are hundreds in worse trouble with drought and no jobs.

Glenda4 days ago

Looks pretty staged by me!

Palaszczuk looking to be doing something?

Why has Palaszczuk no held a press conference to address the Gordon affair instead of stunts like this?

 

Annette3 days ago

@Glenda This is not a 'set up'.  This family have been writing and phoning both Labor and LNP politicians for months.  This was out of frustration.  It just happens that Labor and now the QLD state government.  If LNP had of won the last election, it would have been LNP offices.

 

Samara
4 days ago Good.

Harriet4 days ago

This all sounds very strange.  I have not known of anyone "forced off their land" by the gas companies.  I believe QGC bought a lot of the blocks around the area commonly known as the "Tara blockies" as that was the area that most of the complaints were coming from.  Perhaps they lost their property as a result of taking QGC on in the courts and losing?  It really just doesn't make any sense to me, and I don't think we are getting the full story.  Why not get a rental home in Tara or Chinchilla, and a job there?  I know rentals are in abundance there, and relatively cheap, at present.

And it may create a bit of chaos if everyone in financial difficulties turns up to camp in Anna's office demanding her help?

Kylie4 days ago

@Harriet  Oh yes, it all seems very strange, in your opinion!!

How does someone rent a property without income to support the rental payments? April fools day was yesterday, your comment is strange and alluding to something untoward.

 

Harriet4 days ago

@Kylie @Harriet I m not alluding to anything untoward at all.  Everyone has income even if it is welfare.  Welfare recipients rent homes you know.  Nothing is free in this world, and if you need to rent a home then you either need a job or welfare payments to pay for it.  

 

M4 days ago

@Kylie @Harriet I do have sympathy for the family, but don't families with this many children often get a bit of money for the children. It maybe more affordable for them if they got government housing, but surely they could find even a 3 bedroom house that they could afford to rent until public housing was available. Yes it might be cramped, and some of the kiddies would have to share a room, but it would be better then what they had.

 

Annette3 days ago

@Harriet You haven't heard of people who were bought out by QGC near Tara?  That was in the papers.
Many you won't hear about, as some have just walked off their properties with nothing.  
Some farmers and others have been able to sell and relocated, they had gas on their land and it was a nightmare for them.  
Land values have recently plummeted, in town.  Earlier on properties with gas, or near gas were devalued, some people are unable to sell.  Now with the 'boom' being over, there are a lot of empty houses in town. The cost of rent in those towns went above what you would pay for equivalent in Brisbane.  Many people were living in the showgrounds for a while a couple of years ago because there was no where to rent and if there was, it was too expensive.     

 

Harriet3 days ago

@Annette @Harriet I know all about it - I was there.  I do not know of anyone who has "walked off" their properties, except maybe some in the Weimbilla area.  I don't think you read my comment properly.

 

Annette3 days ago

@Harriet
Yes, in the Wiembella area.  Are we talking semantics, as in 'forced'?  I think there were only six families that have been bought out.  Many more would like to leave but cannot afford to leave, as they cannot sell and the land has depreciated.

 

Annette3 days ago

@Harriet There are also people who have left with their children to live with grandparents and left their partner on the property, due to health concerns and economics.

Andrew4 days ago

I hate to say this but Bligh allowed CSG to take over the state first. This reeks of a political stunt to embarrass Springborg. Even the photo looks staged. That being said I'm glad they found accommodation.

Dallas4 days ago

@Andrew Pull the other leg Andrew you have to be joking embarrass Springborg that really does show your true colors.


Annette3 days ago

@Andrew Yes, it was Beattie and Bligh.  Neither of them are around.  There have been a number of State government changes since Beattie and Bligh. This has been an ongoing problem.

Tony4 days ago

I have sympathy for this family. But, call me cynical, but Anna ( who gas been missing in action) has the Media along to take her photo. This is another example that the Adults are certainly not in control in Queensland.

STP4 days ago
@Tony Yes i think she is using the situation but i hope the family get genuine help.

Frederik4 days ago

@Tony Having spent 40 years in silk purse factories in NSW, Qld and O/S, nothing breaks a teacher's heart more than observing kids struggle because they have a bad home life. They mostly suffer in silence, make up feeble excuses for no help at home and often bunk down with Mum, the new Dad, the stepdad, the old Dad, the boyfriend, the Nanna.....honestly it is so sad. So for mine, leave the kids and their borrowed laptops alone, and give them a chance.....none of this is their doing.

 

deb4 days ago

Tony, Anna had been having community meetings in mareeba. Not missing at all. The state's a big place you know.

 

Glenda4 days ago

@deb we [ay her to run the government not attend ALP meetings!

 

Tony4 days ago

dev, My favourite Labor Sister, We now live in 2015,we now have all sorts of technology and there is no excuse for Anna to hide out, with only time to set up this family for political purposes. Labor is a comedy act that never stops entertaining.


M4 days ago

@Tony lol. You are cynical because of the photo. If you think that is a "professional" photo, you need help Tony. 

 

Tony4 days ago

M,, n fact I barely glanced at the photo. This set up story is just another part of Labor's distraction, so people stop asking why they still chose Gordon when his background has been known by Labor for a long. Long time.

 

Annette3 days ago

@Tony This is not a 'set up'.  This family have been writing and phoning both Labor and LNP politicians for months.  This was out of frustration.  It just happens that Labor and now the QLD state government.  If LNP had of won the last election, it would have been LNP offices.

 

Nonamby4 days ago would this protest ever have happened in Newman's office?   Just like the man wearing the t shirt who was arrested so would they, for trespass. Time for Anna to make some strong choices and follow the Liberals lead or have an election and let the people who know how to govern, govern!

Robert4 days ago

@Nonamby 

Speaking of Newmans Govt......isn't Texas in Springborgs electorate?

If so, just wondering why his local office didn't help them.

 

Tony4 days ago

Robert, Even a rusted on Labor r oerson like you, must be embarrassed by this childish show by Anna!

 

Harriet4 days ago

@Robert @Nonamby Texas might be, but Chinchilla and Tara certainly aren't.  

 

STP4 days ago

@Nonamby it's not a protest they were there 2hrs because they're in a situation they probably thought they would never be in Nomamby and the guy wasn't arrested for wearing a T-Shirt he was being a public nuisance! i would rather a Lnp government but i don't see what thats got to do with this story.

 

Peter4 days ago

I have spent more that 2 hours in a doctor's waiting room

Rudy4 days ago

And then went home to your comfortable bed I bet. These people probably can't do either.

 

Frederik4 days ago

@Peter .....and aren't those 70s National Geographics fun. By the time the consult starts, you feel like creating mass harm, burning down villages and abusing anyone that dares to smile near you!

 

STP4 days ago

Look like a hard working family even the young fella's got boots on, the girls don't have weird hair and piecings in their face's hope things come good for them.

Stella4 days ago

@STP  they are cheap opportunists...that is all.

James4 days ago

Why is the privacy of this family not protected. I know, the LNP must have told the CM that they were in Anna's office. How else would they have found out.

Stella4 days ago

@James  they are bludgers, opportunists...give them nothing...let them work and save like the rest of mankind.

 

Annette3 days ago

@Stella @James They did work and save, bought a property, had a business.  Do you know them personally?

 

Peter4 days ago

Why the bloody hell werent they arrested for trespass and locked up.

Bucause it is anothe bloody Labor stunt that why.

Anything to direct attention away from the criminals they have allowed into their party.

 

Rudy4 days ago Give them a chance mate. They don't look like grubs on drugs. I'm not a fan of Labor either but everyone deserves a bed. Poor attitude.

Brian4 days ago

@Peter What a deeply caring and empathetic person you appear to be Peter. A true credit to the traditions and philosophy of the LNP. Good show!

Pa Kelvin4 days ago

2 hours is hardly "occupied", plus it happened yesterday and the CM has it as "breaking news"....

James4 days ago

I'm not saying that the familyis not genuine but the whole set up reeks of spin doctored stage management to deflect attention from something else that took two weeks not two days

STP4 days ago

@James Labor are low James but surely they're not that low.

 

James4 days ago

To save their own skins???

 

STP4 days ago

@James Need a bigger deflection then this but i do think they could be trying.

Ryan4 days ago

It's shameful that families, citizens and business owners can be forced to sell all they've worked for because a mining company wants to take their land and livelihood. But it's absolutely disgusting that so many of the people commenting show no compassion and call these fellow Australians bludgers or lazy. What a pathetic country we live in.

diahann4 days ago

@Ryan  Im sorry but they don't just come in and take over. They have meetings with the land owners who either agree or disagree with the offer on the table. They all get compensated for the drilling on their properties. The project pays for the infrastructure so they can get to and from with as little disruption as possible. They also get paid per well for so many years...

 

STP4 days ago

@diahann @Ryan So your saying none of that disrupted their aquaponics business diahann? and forced them to sell at a loss.

 

Brian4 days ago

@STP @diahann @Ryan  If you looked at her blog you will see it was an investigation well in the middle of an open paddock. About 3x3.

No one is forced to sell. Leases are entered into over the wells for which the landowners are paid quite well for. Even for the investigation well they receive $1500 per annum (also from her blog) which I imagine is well above land value.

You also have to remember that you do not own petroleum (which includes gas) rights to your land. The State owns them and has and always had the right to offer mining leases for the extraction of petroleum for which the owner of the land are compensated for use of the "surface" of their land.

 

Jo4 days ago

@Brian @STP @diahann @Ryan Why can't they have a 'dislike' button?  It does all sound good and above board when put how Brian put it, I might even have been arguing along side him in support of such a lucrative industry... had I not moved into a regional where mining companies where pushing their way in against overwhelming community opposition. The long term effects of this industry are largely unknown (despite mining companies assurances), and personally I would prefer to not risk my only source of water (groundwater) by believing the spin of these companies.  Tobacco, asbestos anyone?

 

Campbell3 days ago

@Jo The extraction of NG by drilling and hydraulic fracturing has a history going back over 100 years.  The use has increased in the past 50 years and even there, not all fields require fracking.  The short and long term effects have been observed and there is often quite a difference between the subjective and objective effects.  NG and oil have been extracted in commercial quantities from the Western Downs, Maranoa and Warrego areas for over 50 years and there have been no identified adverse effects clearly related to this industry.

 

Annette3 days ago

@Campbell

There is 'conventional gas' and 'unconventional gas'.  Calling it all Natural gas is a industry distraction.  Most of it is for export for the LNG market.
The conventional gas fields in the region have been around for a bit over 50yrs 'CSG in QLD has grown rapidly over the past 15yrs - the annual number of wells drilled increasing from 10 in the early 1990's to almost 600 in 2010-2011.

The Bowen Basin was the 'birthplace of the CSG industry in QLD. The first commercial production commenced from the Dawson River CSG area near Moura in 1996 and later from the Frairview CSG area near Injune in 1998.'
There have been numerous 'incidents'. Not enough study and monitoring has been done, before of after.  Are bores going dry not an 'identifiable adverse effect clearly related to this industry'?

 

Annette3 days ago

@diahann  Many people feel like they have done exactly that.  Have you ever had to deal with land liason officers?  Do you have gas on your land?  It doesn't happen like that.  Compensation is money for land taken out of production and not all people got 'good deals'.  Many were told that they would be taken to land court if they didn't let them on.  It is compulsory negotiations and very one sided.  Many wish that they had never signed up.   It is disruptive, the companies do not always tell the truth about what they plan.  The often don't have current wash down certificates, breech their CCA's by going through fences and not agreed access points.  Then there is the dust, the noise, people coming and going who you don't know. Rubbish left all over the property. Bores going dry.  I have even seen dead cattle that have fallen in the pipeline trenches, not good.

Glenn4 days ago
If they did this when Campbell Newman was in power he would have said they were bikes and used his over the top law to arrest them haha

Ron4 days ago

@Glenn Newman may have sent them to Mulgrave ark, which is empty , after Newman threw the Aboriginal people off it.

 

STP4 days ago

@Ron @Glenn Did he Ron i think you will find the Police have been moving them on for years!

 

Brian4 days ago

@STP @Ron @Glenn  There were a few there the other day when we went to the home show.

Ron4 days ago

IF they have vven playing this game for two years, why did they not take over Newman's office them?

STP4 days ago
@Ron Read the story they've been struggling hardly a game! they have run out of options i don't think they care who the premier is or was.

Ron4 days ago

@STP @Ron My boy, you only know half of the story.

Why don't you offer them a bed?

 

STP4 days ago

@Ron @STP I would Ron i'm all for helping the battler and often do.

STP4 days ago

Come on people laptops aren't expensive these days and they look old anyway ease up a bit hey.

Angie4 days ago 
haha, there's also a yellow Nintendo machine on the floor!!  oh dear....

 

STP4 days ago

@Angie So what is your point Angie.

 

Terry4 days ago

@Angie And????

 

Alanna4 days ago

Well when these abominations they call Coal Seam Gas companies come on to your land with their government mandated rights to dig under your land and poison the environment and leave their filthy gas emissions and toxic holding ponds behind, and the value of your land and property goes down after their CSG activities...to those people who want to ignore what is going on...this could be you any old time soon. Ban CSG and fracking. Its a filthy damaging industry with absolutely no respect for other's private property. Put pressure on your members to ban this activity.

Pa Kelvin4 days ago
This happened yesterday, why is it only being reported on today?? Methinks Labor need a feel good story.. 

Ron4 days ago

@Pa Kelvin My goodnessm 24 hours.Anna  could have built a house gor the in that time, by herself

 

STP4 days ago

@Ron @Pa Kelvin Hope it's better then her cabinet!

Nora4 days ago

Just hire them as the help

Lisa4 days ago

I think I might join them, I've been asking the government to go easy on the taxes so I can save for a car as mine is a 2003. No one ever listened to me, so move over family, I'm going to join yous.

Ron4 days ago
@Lisa and I want an ice cream

Andrew R4 days ago

More of my taxes wasted. 

Paul4 days ago We'll all be living there soon if this mob stays in charge.

Patrick4 days ago
Are the laptops theirs or provided by the office to help keep the kids entertained? 

Cam4 days ago
To the Scrooges whingeing about the laptops. How do you know they're not the school laptops doled out care of Ruddy?

James4 days ago

They are still not free, the families have to pay to use them.

J.J.4 days ago
How is it any ones fault but the family? Sell the laptops that would be a good start. 

John4 days ago

@J.J.  I'll bet you did well at school. Honestly, the Tory brains trust is hard at it again.

 

STP4 days ago

@J.J. Sell your sunglasses.

 

Sharon4 days ago

@STP why? she's worked for them!

 

STP4 days ago

@Sharon @STP And the people in the article worked for their laptops. did you read the article they have lost a lot i don't think 2 or 3 hundred bucks they would get for second hand laptops will help them.

 

Ryan4 days ago

@J.J. They were already forced to sell their home and business. How much more pressure needs to be put on people before they can get some empathy?

 

Brian4 days ago

@Ryan @J.J.  Forced to pay legal bills for fights that they instigated?

Robert4 days ago

I am totally sickened at the criminal lack of regard and preparation for the wholesale poisoning of Australian families who are having gas fields built around or through their properties. Coal seam gas is not pure methane -there are other toxic hydrocarbons that are released from the coal seam during drillling/extraction, vented to air at thousands of pressure vent points throughout the gasfield and even more toxic compounds produced during flaring. These people are living in a cloud of toxic air pollutants. We will not rest until a Royal Commission gets to the bottom of the health impacts of this criminal industry and it is stopped forever in the rest of the country. For all you supporters of this noxious, insidious, melanoma- like gas processing industry, may your consciences give you hell until then.

Andrew4 days ago

@Robert Just what are these "toxic" hydrocarbons? The exact same ones that are release from the coal seams as they are mined. I don't see too many coal miners "poisoned" in mining, both opencut and underground. There's a wonderful saying 'Keep your mouth shut and let everyone think you a fool, rather than open it and prove that you are"

 

Campbell3 days ago

@Robert So you are saying that even if a Royal Commission gave CSG a clean bill of health, you wouldn't accept it and still demand that it be closed down? To date there have been no consistent objective assessments confirming the adverse health effects being caused by exposure to the emissions from the NG harvesting processes.  If and when this can be shown to be the case, I'm sure that appropriate action may be taken.

TalentScout4 days ago

I am Sorry miss Palaszczuk you are not what we are looking for,the Labor union is Down the road...

G4 days ago
My first reaction to this is......    You've gotta love our country.Where else in the world would a homeless family be able to "camp" in the Premier's office. Good on them.    And good on the Premier for helping them.

Sharon4 days ago

Glad the kids have the basis necessities .... laptops.

kate4 days ago

@Sharon Laptops are now supplied by  schools so children can complete their education equally and not fall behind. In this day and age a laptop is a necessity for school

 

Sharon4 days ago

@kate really? I am behind the times.  So they were doing their homework.

 

James4 days ago

The laptops are only supplied by the schools if the parents pay fee which depending on the school can be several hundred dollars.

 

Harriet4 days ago

@kate @Sharon Really kate?  Strange - I recently had to purchase a second hand laptop for a  young lad from a family of low financial standing because his school, a state school, said it was compulsory for them to purchase their own laptop.  What schools are supplying laptops?

Me4 days ago

There is more to this story. There is no explanation for why this family believes they are entitled to be kept in their chosen lifestyle by the Qld taxpayers.

Ryan4 days ago
@Me The article says they lost money when they were forced to sell their home and business to a gas company. Mining companies are legally allowed to kick people off their land in Australia. There's a lot of farmers having to sell up and shift out throughout the country, it's been happening for years. It stands to reason that if society allows mining companies to kick people off their land, then society is responsible for those peoples' welfare while they are being forced to close their business and get back on their feet.

Me4 days ago

@Ryan @Me  I am a farmer. We breed cattle in CSG country. I am not aware of any incidents that you speak of.

 

Brian4 days ago

@Me @Ryan  I grew up on a property SW of Chinchilla. I remember my dad having a bore sunk and complaining about the gas back then (1950's) well before any wells were put in but now it only seems to happen when a gas well in put down.

I also remember the bubbles in the Condamine. You know the ones the gas wells caused.

I also remember the "rural residential" subdivisions carried out by dubious real estate companies throughout the Tara area and marketed as get aways form the nuclear holocaust. This attracted a certain type of people who are now claiming their land is ruined in so far as rural enterprise is concerned when in all truth it was never any good for rural uses.

Most have now have an exaggerated view of what their land is worth.

 

Harriet4 days ago

@Brian @Me @Ryan Spot on Brian....nice to hear from someone who knows.  I am not saying these folk are "Tara blockies", but the geographics sound right.  And yes, those blocks were a disaster and should never have been allowed to happen.  I also remember the gas in the bores Dad used to drill with his own rig way back then being a damned nuisance when all we wanted was water.

And you are absolutely right in saying those blocks are worth nothing for any sort of rural use, or any use really except for a rough lifestyle block, as it is very poor quality land and water is very scarce in that neck of the woods.  

 

Annette2 days ago

@Brian @Me @Ryan 
I know people who have lived on the Condamine for generations, who have fished, boated and swam in it.  They say it never bubbled, they are the 'older' farmers.  I have even heard the gasfield commission admit that the bubbling was caused by CSG activities.  I even have the diagram from that talk. It isn't just the people in the residential estates (now industrialised), it is the black soil now as well.  Those in the estates are not saying that it was prime agricultural land, it was cheap land and they cannot even sell it.
Heard about the UCG incident with Linc Energy and the sick workers?  The 'caution zone' and the ban on excavating below 2metres?  Another form of unconventional gas.

Kylie4 days ago

So sad that any family makes complaints for so long and their voices were not heard.

Imagine living like they did for 2 years. Some don't realise just how good they have it and they take things for granted. Nice to see Ms Palaszczuk has given them the best Easter gift possible, a roof over their heads.

 

brad4 days ago

If this family risked their home and business in a legal battle against a miner and lost, we'll that was silly. The CSG industry and miners in general call the shots in Qld so they would have been better camping outside the Mining Council HQ. I wonder many homeless people will blame the government in future when the debts they owe are worth more than the assets they bought ie houses? The warnings have been out for ages, weren't you paying attention?

Chad4 days ago

both kids have laptops.  they can't be that worst of

Kylie4 days ago

@Chad  Is a laptop a roof, does it provide shelter from the elements? What they have is none of your business. I detect a hint of spite in your comment so let me guess, LNP follower?

 

Ryan4 days ago

@Chad They also had a home and family business. Do you expect people forced out of their homes, forced to sell their business, to also sell everything else they have too? 

Coral4 days ago

its so wrong that they have had to go this far to finally get results what really is annoying is that the government has houses available but they are either being occupied by tenants who should not be in them like a single man in a 3 bedroom house people who have incomes above the limits and people who keep breaching the rules especially those selling drugs yet they keep on being allowed into the houses when people who really need them suffer or else the houses are being sold

Richard4 days ago
@Coral  Why do they need public housing if they have just SOLD their house???

Archer4 days ago

@Coral Many other families worse off survive. Perhaps they should give up their cigarettes and alcohol. They might have enough money to pay rent.

Kylie4 days ago

@Archer @Coral  Archer, do you know this family? If not, then I strongly suggest you don't make accusations of them being smokers or drinkers!!

Patrick4 days ago

I have noticed these "homeless persons are owning laptops.... People that have laptops should be able to afford a house... get a job and rent. STOP feeding of social welfare

Nina4 days ago
@Patrick & @Lisa  You obviously have little understanding of the impact of Coal Seam Gas mining and Fracking.  I'd say most of the comments here are from uneducated people who have not researched that FRACKING has only been around for very, very few years.   One town in the US has had a 100% failure rate of fracking, leaving the whole town without water.   I wish people were more educated and understood this problem.  They are not after social welfare but more for the government to stop, listen and act on what will be something irreversible in our lifetime when you pollute the water tables. I'll tell you who's laughing.. all the overseas countries that have come to trash our country and valuable agricultural land.

Australia is literally the only country in the world that lets this happen.   Oh, and all that gas they're taking, none of it is for Australia because some stupid government department never put a clause in to allow us to have 'domestic' pricing.  

 

Annette2 days ago

@Patrick The cost of a house or rent vs a couple of laptops, hmm....   How much do you think laptops cost?  Assuming that they are on welfare, they did have a home and a small business.  Regardless, children these days need to have laptops for school these days.

Lisa4 days ago

Bogans

Karen4 days ago

They can afford 2 laptops though? 

Geneticist4 days ago

@Karen So judgemental...do you think they sold up and went out to buy them?

If you knew ANYTHING about what the CSG industry is doing to people out west, you'd understand.

 

Archer4 days ago

@Karen I wish I had a laptop. Paid my rent instead.

 

Kylie4 days ago

@Archer @Karen  Archer, you paid your rent instead? That's very good of you but how are you able to comment in here without the use of technology? Not very well thought out, Archer.

 

Sharon4 days ago

@Kylie he must have either an iphone, Tablet, or desktop.  Laptops are quite a luxury.

 

Christopher4 days ago

Get a job you (literal) layabouts!

Ryan4 days ago

@Christopher They had their own house and business until they were forced to sell them. What do you do?

 

Andrew4 days ago

@Ryan @Christopher i guess that Tara is a great place to run a hydroponics business, as it has no surface water - or were they wanting the Government to give them that too.?

 

Ryan4 days ago

@Andrew I don't know what their plans are Andrew, but instead of deriding them for their misfortune I hope they're able to do what's good for the family.

 

Ron4 days ago

@Ryan @Christopher Buy a new home with the proceeds from selling their home and business

Robert4 days ago@Christopher

" We were forced to sell by the courts for 150k which is much less than the proerty was worth. QGC said that they would compensate and never did now their stand is go get stuffed. The government stand is go get stuffed so we are homeless.Tthey just sold the pipeline for 6 billion dollars and after living in our home for 9 years ended up with nothing if it was not for QGC we would still be living and working in chinchilla/tara not out in the bush as refugees ostracised in our own country. You do not see us as we are the evidence of csg and the impacts on our community. I am just heart broken as all our hard work for the last 20 years was in that place. We moved an old queenslander out from chinchilla - used to be on the corner were you turn off to the tip cleared and fenced built a garden made a small business growing aquaponics selling veggies. I have the paper work to prove the land devalued by CSG and other evidence. Just no one high up seems to care or want to help my family and I post thing so no other family in the area ends up homeless from csg and your hard work does not end up as nothing."

 

Christopher4 days ago

@Robert @Christopher boo hoo - cry me a river timberlake.  what a terrible example for their kids, every human ever has had knock backs, it's how you bounce back that counts.

 

Mervyn4 days ago

@Christopher @Robert The CSG companies were paying good money to buy the land, its their own stupid fault if the went to court over it

 

Greg4 days ago

So I guess the Premier and her sidekick "Puppet Pete" Wellington will blame the LNP for setting this up as well?

Robert3 days ago

@Greg We all know it is Tony Abbotts fault that we have people in our society who don't get enough money from the Government ... They need bigger allowances , more public housing ( for  free of course)  and they need free medical access. Look into it Tony , I am sure Bill Shorten would give them enough money to pay their rent, ( and buy laptops). 

 

Katie4 days ago

Poor family. It shouldn't be like this.

 

Geneticist4 days ago

@Katie tell the CSG industry that, they couldn't care less

 

Archer4 days ago

@Katie Exactly. They should be looking for jobs, not lounging about in the premiers office.

 


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